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Reviews of 4 Places - Lisbon Apartments

4 Places - Lisbon Apartments
Calcada do Lavra No 18, Porta 2, Lisbon

Reviews

7.4

Good

Rating 10 - Excellent. 32 out of 90 reviews" "
Rating 8 - Good. 24 out of 90 reviews" "
Rating 6 - Okay. 20 out of 90 reviews" "
Rating 4 - Poor. 7 out of 90 reviews" "
Rating 2 - Terrible. 7 out of 90 reviews" "

7.8/10

Cleanliness

7.2/10

Staff & service

7.2/10

Property conditions & facilities

Reviews

2/10 Terrible

Verified traveller

Disliked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Avoid this place

6/10 Okay

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, room comfort
Great view .. but hell it's steep!
This little apartment is up a very steep road (It has its own funicular tram) .. Once there there are steps up to the front door and then 3 narrow twisting flights to your room!! If you are anything less than able, don't book as you may struggle. Once in the room, the view is fab. Most things worked although the shower needed attention and there was no plug to plug the microwave into, so you couldn't use it unless you moved it across the room (i didn't) .. Same with the kettle (i did) All in all, this place has its limitations. On the plus side : it was in a great central spot : super easy access to the Metro and great shops. There was a superb fish restaurant at the bottom of the steep road too which is highly recommended

2/10 Terrible

Natasha, US

Disliked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
HORRIBLE. Do not stay here
This place is completely run down. There are no apartment staff available to speak too. There is hardly a river view. It is old and dirty. It smells like stale cigarette smoke. The blankets had stains on them and didn't seem like there were washed before our use. The shower door didn't shut and it was literally only big enough to stand in. If you turned while taking a shower or raised your hands to wash your hair, you arms would hit the walls. there is water damage everywhere and the walls are falling apart. There is also no shuttle to bring you to aptartnent from the airport as listed. This listing should be taken off of Expedia.

8/10 Good

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Convenient Central place to stay!

4/10 Poor

sar

Liked: Cleanliness
Disliked: Staff & service
Lovely flat but...
We liked the apartment, it was small but cosy with good central connections but situated up upon a steep hill which we feel should have been highlighted in the apartment description. We did find there was poor communication between the ownersand ourselves especially the checking and checking out. Would recommend but there were certain aspects that could have been made clearer.

4/10 Poor

SDB, San Francisco

Disliked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Tiny people out there
Starting from block away when you realize you need to climb up the hill or come around and walk down the hill to get to the place and find very tiny narrow spiral stairs and when you finally got to the place and starting to get comfy, go and try the shower its the highlight of the place just be careful not to burn yourself or get cold every time you move in this tiny shower.

6/10 Okay

Verified traveller

Liked: Room comfort
Disliked: Staff & service
Lisbon at your fingertips
This apartment is in an accessible location for all the major sights. It's great for having your own space but could use a bit of attention to various maintenance issues. Not all amenities listed (ie toiletries) are provided. So, be sure to bring your own. All in all, this hotel apartment is a good options for those staying in Lisbon.

6/10 Okay

Matthew, New York, NY

Disliked: Staff & service, property conditions & facilities
Great location, shower is cruelly tiny,
We stayed at this hotel for two nights. The location is great, 10 minutes walk to the subway station and about 15 minutes walk to Lisbon historic centre. Wasn't noisy at all. We booked this room about 5 days before we travelled and given the location and the price, this was fantastic. Pros: - Great location, close to subway station, great restaurants and neighborhood - Free wifi - View of the ocean Cons: - Very, i mean VERY narrow staircases. We only had our carry-on so it was fine. - TINY shower. i am not a big person by any means (5'7, skinny), the shower was so small i can BARELY raise my hands and wash my face. And when i did, the chances of accidentally turning the water into piping hot were huge. be careful if you are tall or bigger

8/10 Good

Tingyu

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

8/10 Good

Thomas

Liked: Cleanliness, room comfort

8/10 Good

Darnell, United Kingdom

Liked: Staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Lovely Stay; Welcoming Host
Silvia was really nice. She was extremely friendly, welcoming, and accommodating. Located in a wonderful area right next to the trolley that can take you up to the doorstep. We had a great view of the city from our room. The place comes with a fridge, stove/oven, and a washer. The room was slightly dusty, but whatever. We loved the place. I would definitely recommend this place to friends and family.

10/10 Excellent

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Great place. The woman taking care of the place was amazing (so friendly and helpful). The neighborhood is actually great but the apartments themselves are halfway up a steep hill.

10/10 Excellent

Jimmy León, Bogota

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Best location in Lisboa
It was best part of my trip. The apartment has all facilities for a perfect stay. Besides it is very well located and the best part is the staff: Teresa and Francisco are the perfect host.

10/10 Excellent

Yaniv

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

10/10 Excellent

Johnbk

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

8/10 Good

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

10/10 Excellent

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Amazing view (2nd floor apartment)
Very clean, kitchen fully equipped small but confortable for 2 people. Will return for sure.

6/10 Okay

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service
You get what you pay for . . .
The accomodations are simple, yet functional and clean. This is basically a crash pad, which is fine for the price. The staff was incredibly friendly and helpful. The description is somewhat misleading, though, because the place doesn't "overlook the river"; nor does it have a functioning "living room" because there is no furniture. What is troublesome is that the place is located about half-way up an extremely steep, 500-meter hill. The hill is so steep that there are tram lines for getting up and down the hill. This is impossible to find when one arrives because no one would ever think to walk up or down this hill.

8/10 Good

Sean, Dublin

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Ideally located apartment with a sea view
This apartment is ideally located, and within walking distance of Lisbon's central sights. It is reasonably priced, and well enough equiped - including a washing mahine and a line to dry your clothese. We stayed in apartment 2, second from the top, and it had a fine view of Lisbon's hills, and down towards the sea. The rooms are bright (the bedroom too bright, in the morning) and airy. Heating is a bit inadequate (one electric heater) in cold weather. Prepare yourself for a steep walk up the lane (which has one of those funny hill-climbing trams on it), and then some flights of stairs.

6/10 Okay

Verified traveller

Disliked: Property conditions & facilities
Must stay on higher floor
The apartment was nice enough but we were on the 1st floor and calling it a river view was a stretch. Luis who picked us up was very friendly and knowledgeable about Lisbon. That was very nice. The location of the apartment was fantastic though you would have to climb a little. The bathroom was really tiny and paint was peeling off from the floor.

8/10 Good

Lawrence, London, UK

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Well-located Lisbon apartment
Excellent location; friendly welcome; thoughtfully equipped apartment.

6/10 Okay

Don, Canada

Liked: Cleanliness, room comfort
Disliked: Staff & service
Very narrow stairwell and shower was extremely small. Don't drop your soap! Room was small but comfortable. Stairs were the major challenge.

2/10 Terrible

John, Vancouver, BC, Canada

Liked: Cleanliness
Disliked: Staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
BAD experience - 1 week planned turned into 1 day
2nd week of a Two week stay in Portugal. 1st week was in Albufeira. Was looking forward to this place, was thinking with only a few rooms it should be very well kept. Starting with the Taxi, who could not find the place, because you can not drive to the front. You have to have the Taxi driver drop you off either at the bottom or the top of the hill. Then walk the STEEP cobble stone road, WATCH out for the Lavra Elevator(train) as it will crush you, which does not Stop at the Front entrance but passes right by the place. Except at night when they do maintenance on it, right outside the front door. Then the smell of the place, Mouldy mildew smell. The area where this place located is a dumpy area, and right beside a jail. Bedroom so small you can't walk around the bed. No Heat, I mean no HEAT! Had to sleep in the living room because the bedroom was so COLD. Did find a crappy little oil heater stuck in the closet. But of little use. No place to put your luggage. The closet was full of Construction Material, so couldn't use it. The reading lamps in the bed were on the wrong side of the room, couldn't use them. Shower so small you had to slide through the door to get into it. The toilet was installed on an Angle so the door would close. Renovated - NO - a coat of paint is not renovated. No Phone, and the caretaker doesn't stay on premises. Decided to leave after one night, but the Caretaker wouldn't come until noon the next day to pickup the key. And we couldn't phone him.

10/10 Excellent

Debra

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Excellent apartment in Lisbon!
We loved the apartment at 4 Places; it gave us the feel of actually living in Lisbon which is what we wanted. It is centrally located. Be prepared, however, to climb a steep hill to get to the apartment and be ready for a lot of stairs. But, trust me, the climb is worth it.

10/10 Excellent

Steve, Sunnyvale, CA, USA

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
The 4 Places in Lisbon: A great experience!
4 Places in Lisbon is not a "Hotel" per se, but rather a complex of small apartment-like accommodations. Located in an old building in downtown Lisbon, our apartment was recently renovated, clean, efficient with all the amenities American tourists come to expect. The best part of the entire experience was the owner, Francisco, who is an aspiring young man. He is most gracious, speaks great English and is most helpful in taking care of his guests. He gives the word, "hospitality", a new meaning. He arranged a special meal for us at a great restaurant, arranged the taxi transportation to and from dinner and even personally picked us up at the airport and took us back to the airport at the end of our stay. He helped put a wonderfully warm personal touch to our visit to Lisbon!!

6/10 Okay

Ditte

Disliked: Room comfort
Close to the city
The appartement was very close to the city so it was ideal for shopping and dining at night. You have to climb a steep street and some stairs to get there, so if you have problems with your breath or your knees, this is not for you. The owner was very kind and helpful.

10/10 Excellent

Birgit, Sønderborg, Denmark

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Center of Lissabon
We had a 3 nights stay at "4 places". The location in Lissabon is very close to the citycenter, a walk of just 5 min. You have to be in good shape as the apartment is on a hill. We had the apartment with the river view and it was magnificent to sit at the table in the apartment with the windows open enjoying the view of the city and the river and the sun shining. The owner picked us up (and back again) at the airport and gave us some usefull information about our stay - very good service.

6/10 Okay

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
In the city center
Nice apartments, recently reformed and well equiped. The only cons I have is about its location, not very convenient, specially if you have heavy luggage - although is was in the City Center, pretty pretty close to all Lisbon main attractions.

10/10 Excellent

StanUA, Ukraine

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
My best experience!
1. Great location - 1 min walkdown to Avenue of Liberty 2. Great room (small but really nice), really authentic filling of the old city 3. Airport transfer(like limo service) to the room for the price of taxi, really friendly atmosphere from the very beginning and city overview 4. Great personality of the manager Francisco Sacramento 5. You can discuss trip to the Capa da Roca on a personal basis So, we got much more than we expected! Choosing this hotel you we will meet warm, hospitality and really friendly treatment! Everything was great!

10/10 Excellent

Magnus

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Fint sted for par. Litt tungt å gå opp bakken, men går nok fint for de aller fleste. Ligger midt i sentrum.
Stayed 5 nights in Jun 2017

8/10 Good

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, room comfort
Good !
Voyage offert à mes parents. Accueil mitigé avec la porte dont le verrou était cassé et ne fermait pas mais le propriétaire à vite résolu le soucis en proposant une solution rapidement et en s'occupant d'un transfert de chambre le temps de la résolution.
Stayed 1 night in May 2017

10/10 Excellent

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
goo place
Convenient & Nice. Since there's no lift it was not easy for moving my luggage but everything was good. Very near to city centre.

8/10 Good

Jose Luis , México

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Un hotel con espíritu juvenil a 5 min del centro
Una excelente opción para viajeros que busquen cercanía con el centro de la ciudad, es un cuarto que tiene todos los servicios disponibles y en muy buen estado, hay mercado muy cerca para cocinar en el apartamento y economizar.

10/10 Excellent

Antonio

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Ubicacion inmejorable. Excelente relacion precio
Ubicación extraordinaria para conocer Lisboa sin necesidad de desplazamientos Inmejorable relación Pecio/Calidad

8/10 Good

Lizzy

Liked: Cleanliness
Knus maar gezellig
Het appartementen complex bevindt zich in een smalle straat op een heuvel. Midden in het centrum. Je moet wel, niét slecht te been zijn, want het is een steile heuvel. De kamers zijn knus, maar je hebt alles wat je nodig hebt. We hadden voor drie personen geboekt, maar de kamers waren helaas maar voor 2 personen. Een persoon heeft dus op de bank moeten slapen, we kregen de volgende dag een matras voor op de grond. Helaas werkte de wifi ook niet. Kortom: prima, knus appartementje op een paar kleine minpuntjes na.

10/10 Excellent

Manuela

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Hotel boa localização, boas vistas
Apesar de a minha estadia em Lisboa ser a trabalho, a localização do hotel é muito boa. estando localizado numa zona bastante atractiva

2/10 Terrible

Lisanne, Repentigny, Qc, Canada

Disliked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Attention à la moisissure!
Notre expérience a mal débutée: Nous avons envoyé plusieurs courriels au propriétaire de l'appartement afin de reconfirmer notre réservation mais il n'a pas répondu. Nous avons également téléphoné et laissé un message vocal. Il a enfin répondu le jour même de notre arrivée pour nous dire de vérifier notre courriel car nous devions avoir reçu un message avec les instructions pour notre enregistrement. Une fois sur place: Il devait y avoir quelqu'un pour nous accueillir mais ce n'était pas le cas alors nous avons suivi les instructions et sommes entrés nous même grâce au code de porte. De tout le séjour nous n'avons vu personne. Nous avons écris au propriétaire pour lui dire qu'il manquait des choses de base tel que cafetière (et serviettes à main, linge à vaisselle, etc) mais il n'a jamais répondu. Construction: Nous n'avions pas été avisé des travaux. La bâtisse au complet était recouverte d'une toile et d’échafaudages et ça, c'est sans compter le bruit des travailleurs. Insonorisation: Inexistante. À chaque matin nous nous faisions réveiller par les grincements du tram. Accès difficile: L'appartement n'est pas accessible en voiture puisque c'est la rue du tram. Il a fallu descendre une panoplie de marche puis regarder des 2 côtés pour traverser sur la voie du tram pour ensuite monter les valises dans un minuscule escalier en colimaçon. Moisissure et saleté: Moisissure dans la salle de bain, saleté dans tout l'appartement. 4 étoiles: Au plus 2 étoiles.
Extérieur de la bâtisse
Échaffaudage qui obstrue notre vue
Mauvais entretien
Moisissure dans la douche

8/10 Good

Gino

Disliked: Cleanliness, property conditions & facilities
basic en eenvoudig en klein appartement
Voor een of twee overnachtingen prima. Voor ons verblijf 5 nachten, toch wel beperkt. Appartement deed me wel denken aan een studentenkamer. Basic, veeg schoon, klein. De douche was klein en de douchedeuren waren bijna stuk, we moesten heel voorzichtig doen in gebruik. Het was prettig de wasmachine te gebruiken omdat de handdoeken om de 2-3 dagen pas vervangen zouden worden, terwijl we dit dagelijks hadden verwacht. Bij aankomst in de avond hadden we geen contactpersoon, telefonisch wel contact met Fransisco dat de sleutel aan de deur zat. Bij vertrek ook geen contactpersoon voor de sleuteloverdracht, dus maar aan de deur gelaten en bericht ingesproken.

2/10 Terrible

Nikolas , Deutschland

Disliked: Cleanliness, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Super Lage - spärliche Ausstattung - Kakerlaken
Das Apartment liegt in guter Erreichbarkeit zu allen Sehenswürdigkeiten in der Stadt. Die Ausstattung des Zimmers ist nicht unbedingt für einen längeren Aufenthalt im Apartment ausgelegt, aber ausreichend für eine langes Wochenende. Das Apartment war grundsätzlich sauber, leider aber von Kakerlaken (2 + X) befallen. Die Versuche die Türrahmenfuge des Badezimmers mit Klopapier zu verstopfen zeigen dass dies wohl leider nicht zum ersten Mal vorgekommen ist. Dies ist, vor allem bei einem solchen Preisniveau, nicht akzeptabel!

6/10 Okay

Valerie

Bon rapport qualité/prix
Très bon séjour. Etablissement correct, mais assez difficile d'accès. Chemin piéton pentu et escalier en colimaçon pas très large dans l'immeuble. Appartement propre, idéalement situé pour les visites ou la vie nocturnes.

4/10 Poor

SINAE

Disliked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
저렴한 독립된 공간을 원하신다면....
다른곳에비해 가격이 저렴한 아파트먼트라 예약을하였습니다. 언덕이라는건 알고있었지만 정말 상상이상의 언덕에 무거운캐리어를 끌고올라갔으나 주인은없고.. 전화하였더니 메일을보냈다고 하더라구요..(포르투갈에선 데이터가되지 않아 메일확인을 못했습니다) 메일을 확인하지 못한 잘못도 있지만 메일에 5시전에는 그곳에있겠다고 하였으나 저희가 도착한시간은 4시가 좀 넘었습니다. 숙소는 조금 오래된 아파트여서 윗층의 이동소리가 그대로 들렸으나 지내는데는 문제가 없었고 냉장고도 컸습니다. 샤워실은 상상보다 훨씬 작았구요, 샤워실문을 여닫는데 고생좀했네요. 짐이적고 저렴한 분리된 공간을 원한다면 추천하지만 전 다시는 가고싶지 않네요.

2/10 Terrible

Franck, Courbevoie

Disliked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Très mauvaise experience
Nous avons loué une chambre cet été dans cet appartement (1er étage), et nous avons été très désagréablement surpris. La chambre ne correspondait pas du tout à la description et les photos qui accompagnaient la présentation de l'appartement : - l'endroit était très sale (nous avions les pieds noirs au bout d'1h à marcher dans l'appartement) - pleins de traces de moisissures, les murs étaient sales et fissurés. - le mobilier était abimés (les poignées de porte de tenaient meme plus en place) - le bruit est très présent. En effet le tram passe à 50 mètres de la chambre entre 7h et 21h en face de la chambre. Ce n'est pas du tout indiqué sur le site. - pas de clim et ventilateur inefficace. - sur les 3 jours, nous avons eu internet 1 jour, l'accès à été coupé le reste du séjour. - impossible de joindre le responsable (Francesco), il n'a jamais répondu à mes appels ou mes messages sur son répondeur! - la douche est tellement petite que la vitre de la cabine est déformée et cassée. Pour le prix que nous avons payé (+60euros la nuit) nous aurions pu trouver 10 fois mieux... Nous avons été très décu et nous ne reviendrons jamais dans ce logement. Le seul point positif est sa proximité avec le centre ville.

10/10 Excellent

SEONGMIN, 수원

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
굿굿
좋음좋음

6/10 Okay

Bjoern Ove, Jørpeland

Disliked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities
Flott belliggenhet, men strevsom bakke
Beliggenheten er helt topp. Meget bra plasser å spise på 100 meter unna. Problemet var at det var en meget bratt bakke som det ikke ble opplyst om. Og trange trapper til 3 etasje. Uansett fikk vi mye igjen for pengene. Enkel standard - men i varme Lisboa behøves det ikke luksus. Var der i 9 netter og hadde 9 flotte kvelder i området

8/10 Good

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Très bon séjour
Appartement agréable et bien situé. Le gérant est sympathique et parle bien français (non rencontré mais eu au téléphone).

10/10 Excellent

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
좋은 숙박
모든 시설이 완벽하였습니다. 저희가 전망을 보기 위해 3층에서 숙박하였는데 전망은 좋았습니다. 하지만 3층까지 올라가는데 계단 높이가 상당히 높아 체크인 할 때와 매일 이동할 때 불편함이 많았습니다.

6/10 Okay

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, property conditions & facilities

2/10 Terrible

Marika, tampere/rovaniemi

Disliked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
4vrk loma Lissabonissa homeasunnossa
Olin etukäteen ilmoittanut saapumistajan, minulle vastattiin että he ovat paikalla silloin. Löysimme perille, soittelin pitkään ovipuhelinta ja kukaan eivastannut. Soitin omistajan numeroon, hän selitti huoneen avaimen olevan kynnysmaton alla ka ohjeisti meidät kämppään puhelimutse. Koko rakennus oli todella rähjäinen ja haisi voimakkaasti homeelle. Huoneessa reinissä maali halkeillut ja home haisi. Ikkunoita ei saanut kokonaan suljettua, olivat kai jotenkin rikki. Tv ei toiminut, wifin kanssa oli ongelmia. Kadulla jossa asunto on, on kuuluisa elevaattori eli hissi. Se pitää kovaa ääntä/kirskuntaa klo 7-20 ja huoneessa ei siis mitään äänieristystä. Olimme päivät pois asunnolta, yhtenä päivänä oli pyykkikone käyty hakemassa pois ja tilalla oli rottinkituoli. Ärsyttävää että käydään kysymättä huoneessa poissaollessamme ja viedään vielä tavaraa mennessään. Myöhemmin kysyin viestillä kuinka check out sujuu kun lähdemme aikaisin aamulla, tähän en saanut ikinä vastausta joten jätimme avaimen asunnon sisälle pöydälle. Kokonaisuutena asunto oli meille ok koska sijainti oli loistava, mutta muuten törkeän huonoa asiakaspalvelua ja asunnon kunto surkea.

4/10 Poor

Étienne, Canada

Disliked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Décevant...
Tellement de fausse informations fournies par la compagnie sur hotels.com... Pour n'en nommer que quelques-unes : aucune réception, encore moins 24h comme indiqué et aucun moyen de les joindre avant 11h00 le jour de notre réservation. Check-out n'est pas à 14h comme indiqué, mais à midi... Les photos sur le site ne représentent vraiment pas notre appartement (situé au 2e étage), murs écaillés et sales dans toute les pièces, seulement une fenêtre s'ouvre sur les trois du salon, les autres sont brisées, douche miniature avec des portes brisées que l'on doit soulever pour fermer et elles nous tombent dessus pendant la douche... Personnels Multilingues, une femme qui parle portugais et quelques mots anglais ne correspond pas à la définition Multilingue... Ce qui est choquant c'est la fausseté de leurs informations... Pour notre voyage d'un mois en Europe, c'était le pire endroit et non pas le moins cher. À voir les autres commentaires, nous avons peut-être été malchanceux avec la pire chambre qu'ils ont... Sinon, c'est vrai que la pente a monter est élevée, mais nous le savions. L'emplacement est bien pour le métro, l'autobus et le train pour Sintra.

4/10 Poor

Jørgen, Hørsholm

Disliked: Staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
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